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	<title>Comments on: Different From vs. Different Than</title>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jun 2010 00:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m afraid I think Geoff is very badly wrong about this. As you say, &quot;different than&quot; has been in use all over the English world for hundreds of years. Maybe (I just don&#039;t know the history) it was once non-standard, but surely 300 years is enough to make it acceptable now! As the OED notes,
&lt;blockquote&gt;The construction with than (after other than), is found in Fuller, Addison, Steele, De Foe, Richardson, Goldsmith, Miss Burney, Coleridge, Southey, De Quincey, Carlyle, Thackeray, Newman, Trench, and Dasent, among others&lt;/blockquote&gt;

More important: the word &quot;than&quot; is definitely not a preposition. It is a conjunction. To call it a preposition is just incorrect (not a matter of taste, style, etc.)!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m afraid I think Geoff is very badly wrong about this. As you say, &#8220;different than&#8221; has been in use all over the English world for hundreds of years. Maybe (I just don&#8217;t know the history) it was once non-standard, but surely 300 years is enough to make it acceptable now! As the OED notes,</p>
<blockquote><p>The construction with than (after other than), is found in Fuller, Addison, Steele, De Foe, Richardson, Goldsmith, Miss Burney, Coleridge, Southey, De Quincey, Carlyle, Thackeray, Newman, Trench, and Dasent, among others</p></blockquote>
<p>More important: the word &#8220;than&#8221; is definitely not a preposition. It is a conjunction. To call it a preposition is just incorrect (not a matter of taste, style, etc.)!</p>
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		<title>By: Shelley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shelley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jun 2010 11:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with and thank Geoff for that very clear description of the distinction. The use of &quot;from&quot; for different and &quot;than&quot; for comparative is a clear and easy way to understand the DIFFERENCE.

Thanks for your post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with and thank Geoff for that very clear description of the distinction. The use of &#8220;from&#8221; for different and &#8220;than&#8221; for comparative is a clear and easy way to understand the DIFFERENCE.</p>
<p>Thanks for your post!</p>
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		<title>By: Geoffrey Lukens</title>
		<link>http://data.grammarbook.com/blog/adjectives-adverbs/different-from-vs-different-than/comment-page-1/#comment-414</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoffrey Lukens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi!

I&#039;m not trying to be difficult, but...I hereby take exception to the notion floated here, that the expressions DIFFERENT FROM and DIFFERENT THAN have, seemingly, been on an equal grammatical footing for nearly three hundred years!??! 

Wow, where have I been?  [Rhetorical question]

This controversy between THAN and FROM (as prepositions) when used with the verb TO DIFFER, or the adjective DIFFERENT, seems to be one which has, is, and perhaps will, ultimately, result in accomodation of bad, or lazy grammar.  It&#039;s yet another instance of the Decline of Our Language, the Dumbing-down of primary schooling.

I hear (presumably), otherwise well-educated, well-spoken people, in public, making this mistake. It&#039;s a pretty gross mistake. On one hand, when the uneducated speak in this way, it&#039;s one thing. It&#039;s forgivable, even though one would like to explain, and disabuse them of their error. On the other hand, public figures, whether it&#039;s our President, or a respected news-anchor, should be responsible enough to check themselves and what they utter, before they go public.  Or, have we come to expect and accept such colloquial expressions from our role models?

DIFFER takes the preposition FROM (exclusively), for the simple and logical reason that, as the verb TO DIFFER implies, it sets apart by EXCLUSION rather than BY DEGREE of COMPARISON. As in - This is different from that.  When something differs, it implies another, FROM WHICH it is distinguished. 

The fundamental question: How does something, be it a state of being, a quality, a quantity, an action,...DIFFER FROM another thing? Answer, COMPARITIVELY, by contrast.  The contrast is either by degree, or by total exclusion; if one thing is excluded (outside the set which includes another) FROM, it is DIFFERENT.  The preposition THAN is used with GREATER or LESS; the preposition FROM is used with DIFFERENT.  

That&#039;s how I see it.
The lazy speaker does not want to expend the effort to construct the requisite clause to follow, FROM [THAT WHICH, the other]... etc. 

If we tried this little litmus test in most other languages, we&#039;d probably get the same results. It&#039;s beyond the scope of my immediate reply to attempt that. I think I would/could prove my premise, but I&#039;ll let it go for now. 

Different THAN is colloquial, which is, strictly speaking, not correct. It may be &quot;Acceptable, accomodated,&quot; but not right; it is lazy usage of grammar.

Your thoughts?
Thank you,
Geoff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not trying to be difficult, but&#8230;I hereby take exception to the notion floated here, that the expressions DIFFERENT FROM and DIFFERENT THAN have, seemingly, been on an equal grammatical footing for nearly three hundred years!??! </p>
<p>Wow, where have I been?  [Rhetorical question]</p>
<p>This controversy between THAN and FROM (as prepositions) when used with the verb TO DIFFER, or the adjective DIFFERENT, seems to be one which has, is, and perhaps will, ultimately, result in accomodation of bad, or lazy grammar.  It&#8217;s yet another instance of the Decline of Our Language, the Dumbing-down of primary schooling.</p>
<p>I hear (presumably), otherwise well-educated, well-spoken people, in public, making this mistake. It&#8217;s a pretty gross mistake. On one hand, when the uneducated speak in this way, it&#8217;s one thing. It&#8217;s forgivable, even though one would like to explain, and disabuse them of their error. On the other hand, public figures, whether it&#8217;s our President, or a respected news-anchor, should be responsible enough to check themselves and what they utter, before they go public.  Or, have we come to expect and accept such colloquial expressions from our role models?</p>
<p>DIFFER takes the preposition FROM (exclusively), for the simple and logical reason that, as the verb TO DIFFER implies, it sets apart by EXCLUSION rather than BY DEGREE of COMPARISON. As in &#8211; This is different from that.  When something differs, it implies another, FROM WHICH it is distinguished. </p>
<p>The fundamental question: How does something, be it a state of being, a quality, a quantity, an action,&#8230;DIFFER FROM another thing? Answer, COMPARITIVELY, by contrast.  The contrast is either by degree, or by total exclusion; if one thing is excluded (outside the set which includes another) FROM, it is DIFFERENT.  The preposition THAN is used with GREATER or LESS; the preposition FROM is used with DIFFERENT.  </p>
<p>That&#8217;s how I see it.<br />
The lazy speaker does not want to expend the effort to construct the requisite clause to follow, FROM [THAT WHICH, the other]&#8230; etc. </p>
<p>If we tried this little litmus test in most other languages, we&#8217;d probably get the same results. It&#8217;s beyond the scope of my immediate reply to attempt that. I think I would/could prove my premise, but I&#8217;ll let it go for now. </p>
<p>Different THAN is colloquial, which is, strictly speaking, not correct. It may be &#8220;Acceptable, accomodated,&#8221; but not right; it is lazy usage of grammar.</p>
<p>Your thoughts?<br />
Thank you,<br />
Geoff</p>
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